...and by the time you get to the famous "Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heaven" quote, you'll never want any of that JW fake paradise again...The parallel of the English civil war as a background for Paradise Lost could easily be swapped for a life wasted inside Watchtower's so called Paradise.
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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.
by smiddy3 inwhen god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?
without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.
no communication systems operating .
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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.
by smiddy3 inwhen god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?
without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.
no communication systems operating .
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Darth FayDehr
Everyone must at one time in life read John Milton's Paradise Lost. Consider this masterful description from Book IV:
- So on he fares, and to the border comes
- Of Eden, where delicious Paradise,
- Now nearer, Crowns with her enclosure green,
- As with a rural mound the champain head
- Of a steep wilderness, whose hairie sides
- With thicket overgrown, grottesque and wilde,
- Access deni'd; and over head up grew
- Insuperable highth of loftiest shade,
- Cedar, and Pine, and Firr, and branching Palm
- A Silvan Scene, and as the ranks ascend
- Shade above shade, a woodie Theatre
- Of stateliest view. Yet higher then thir tops
- The verdurous wall of paradise up sprung:
- Which to our general Sire gave prospect large
- Into his neather Empire neighbouring round.
- And higher then that Wall a circling row
- Of goodliest Trees loaden with fairest Fruit,
- Blossoms and Fruits at once of golden hue
- Appeerd, with gay enameld colours mixt:
- On which the Sun more glad impress'd his beams
- Then in fair Evening Cloud, or humid Bow,
- When God hath showrd the earth; so lovely seemd
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Convention statistic
by dothemath inthe wife got back from the convention, and mentioned one point from the co talk.. he gave the statistic that on average, there are about 780 people baptized every day in the world!
everyone was amazed.. i broke it to her that there used to be a lot more.
i recall giving a talk and at that time there were around 1200/day.
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Darth FayDehr
P. T. Barnum's phrase comes to mind: "there's one born every minute" (I include myself as a former gullable fool)
Very interesting true story behind the phrase, which you can read about here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Giant
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Agression @ latest Broadcasting
by Gorbatchov inwhat i don’t get, is the agression seen in the latest, september broadcasting.. if something is not usefull here at g.’s home, we look if it can be used for an other purpose or store it or put it away in a trash bin.
that’s what we learn our children.. it seems that for jw.org officials it is practice to get very angry and smash items on the floor.
somehow the real face of brotherhood is showed here.
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Darth FayDehr
These broadcasts are showing the rank and file what their leaders are really like. Hopefully these broadcasts will continue to wake people up!
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Darth FayDehr
September JW broadcast. The effects of "no higher education"? Someone who has no idea how to aerate wine, or appreciate the subtle difference in taste of drinking wine from a shaped glass. Education is so evil!
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Petition: have you signed yet?
by Darth FayDehr inhttps://www.thepetitionsite.com/en-gb/448/003/716/demand-investigation-into-sex-abuse-cover-ups-in-jehovahs-witnesses-churches/?taf_id=58504960&cid=fb_na.
please go sign this petition, then return here.
it's under 60 seconds to sign.
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Darth FayDehr
PLEASE go sign this petition, then return here. It's under 60 seconds to sign.
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2018 JWBroadcasting "Higher education is useless" video CLIP
by Not_Culty insept 2018. https://vimeo.com/288327363.
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Darth FayDehr
First he throws bread in a bin - "you're a worthless piece of poop", is the message. Now he throws a glass on the floor, with the same condemnatory message "you're a worthless piece of poop". What will he throw next? Tantrum alert!
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2018/19 new light
by Ray Frankz inhi guys, long time without paying a visit to this site.
today i returned to check a 'gossip' that is running around in brazilian exjw forums.. they are stating that is almost certain they will make a big change in their doctrine maybe this year yet in the annual meeting.
they say people in warwick were commenting on this.
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Darth FayDehr
2034. I know, it is total bat poop crazy, but...I hear several PIMIs speculate about Noah's 120 years: "1914 + 120 = 2034"
The question is will the GB be so shallow that they will try to do what their forerunners have repeatedly got away with? The date is already "out there" in PIMI JDub land. So, do the GB milk it for all it's worth and add some "credulity" to this rumour, or do they reach out to clutch some other straws? My guess is that they won't be able to resist.
- It preserves the sanctity of 1914
- It preserves the 1919 date claim for divine selection
- It worked on all the other dummies in past generations (1799 1844 1874 1914 1925 1975 2000...)
- It' the only card left up their sleeve
- They stop house-to-house work (for legal reasons) and claim Jehovah shut the door of the ark... "hit that hysteria button!"
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Is Child Abuse An Issue That You Personally Have Seen In The Organization?
by minimus inas an elder, i saw one child abuse situation involving a man who wanted to be an elder and had i believe 8 children.
he was not in our congregation when this all erupted.
he denied it and moved to another hall and unbelievably, that body of elders wanted to appoint him since they believed his entire family was lying about him.
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Darth FayDehr
I've been in a total of 9 congregations. Sadly, EVERY ONE OF THEM had one or more paedophiles in them. Every one of them. In one rare case, the perp voluntarily walked into a police station and handed himself in. In another, the perp took his victims to "clean the Kingdom Hall" - yes, he did it Inside the Kingdom Hall. I have the personal satisfaction of going AGAINST the instructions of the CO - who threatened that if I did NOT call Watchtower legal desk first, I would be deleted as an elder - and I assisted the victim to report to the police.
(I never was deleted as an elder - it was assumed the victim went to the police independently.)